MàJ listes Beta

Profitez du mal que j'ai à m'endormir :
La dernière màj (1.10) indique dans le changelog des infos sur les listes "secrètes" :

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Secret lists Birdmen Skylords points adjusted.
Secret lists Ninjas now have an option to take Hanzo blades which increase Me to 2+ (from 3+).
Secret lists King Vultan [1] added to Birdmen list.

A deviner, je dirais que les 2 listes secrètes sont une liste d'hommes-oiseaux et une liste de type japonaise.

omg

A mon avis c'est du bluff... Pour nous teaser un peu plus ^^

il y a King Vultan, mais, y a-t-il Flash Gordon, là est la question ^^

Bien vu, je n'avais pas saisi la référence.
Du coup, c'est peut-être bien un coup de bluff.

Fred le gaucher a écrit:

A deviner, je dirais que les 2 listes secrètes sont une liste d'hommes-oiseaux et une liste de type japonaise.

sHUT Up and Take mY MOneY ! ! !

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Special Rules:
• Rallying! is now in the special rules section and has changed to be cumulative with a maxmium of a +3 bonus.
• Omniscient now specifies where to drawn line of sight from on flanks.
Ratkin:
• Nerve has been adjusted globally to -2 of baseline.
• Warriors have been reverted to Me 5+, points have also been adjusted.
• Spear Warriors have been reverted to Me 5+, points have also been adjusted.
• Scurriers have had their point cost increased
• Vermintide have had their attacks lowered and no longer have nimble, points have also been adjusted.
• Weapons team Storm of lead option now grants piercing (1) for +20 pts
• Shredder now have standard height.
• Mutant Rat-fiend has had its nerve increased by 1 and points adjusted.
• Rattlewagon and Death Engine have been combined into a new entry "Death Engine" - This can be customised to fill either role.
• Blight Lord is now inspiring to (Blight only) (was previously "The Blight only"
• New hero level character - The Enforcer.
• Warchief, specifies that he's mounted on a fleabag.
• Warlock now has Lightning bolt 5 as standard.
• Demonspawn has had its point re-evaluated, it's no longer massively overpointed.
Salamanders:
• Ancients have had their points increased slightly.
• Ember Sprites have had their points increased slightly.
• Kaisenor Knigshts are now called Kaisenor Lancers, they now have increased speed but have had their defence lowered to 4. Their points have also been adjusted.
• Ancients on Rhinosaurs have had their speed increased slightly and attacks increased to the standard amount for large cavalry.
• Firedrakes breath is now only 16 instead of 20, points have been decreased to compensate.
• Due to Kaisenor Knights speed increase, all hero raptor mount options have had their speed increased to 8 (from 7)
• Mage-Priest has had its fireball increased to 10 (from 9) and points have been adjusted.
• Battle-Captain Rhinosaur mount option now has increased attacks and nerve, speed has also been increased to match regular Rhinosaurs.
• Clan Lord on Fire Drake has had it's breath option reduced to 16 (from 20) to match the regular fire drake.
• Ghekkotah Skylord has had its point cost increased by 5.
League of Rhordia:
• Halfling Braves have had their point cost reduced slightly to be more inline with the rest of the halfling units.
• Dogs of War have had their point cost reduced.
• Halfling Iron Beast base size has been corrected.
• Battle Shrine now has Rallying (1). It's lightning bolt option has been reduced slightly, but it's gained Omniscient.
• Barons now inspires all non-halfling units instead of Honour Guard only.
Empire of Dust:
• Husks have had their nerve reduced by 1, but have had their points decreased to match mummies, their r should be a genuine choice between the two now.
• Enslaved Guardian Archers have had their points increased slightly.
• Bone Giant now hits on a 4+, it's attacks are now also 1D6+6, points increased slightly.
• Reanimated Behemoth has had it's attacks increased by 1.
• Bone Dragon has had it's nerve reduced by 1.
• The Monolith now effects casters in a completely new way!, points have also been increased.
• Soul Snare has had it's point cost reduced slightly.
The Brotherhood:
• Valiant now once again grants Rallying (1) to Villeins only. (This stacks as normal )
• Swain’s Villein Rangers no longer have Valliant but instead have inspiring (Villeins only)
• Plowshares can no longer be taken at the Troop level.
• New Monster! - Forsaken Beast has been added, this is a similar entry to the Beast of Nature.
• Devoted has had its melee decreased to a 5+, nerve increased by 1 and the option for lightning bolt now only costs 20 points (from 25).
Varangur:
• Night Raiders have had their speed reduced by 1 and no longer have pathfinder.
• Horse Raiders have been made more similar to Night Raiders, their points have also increased to match them, so they should fulfil similar roles, but in different ways.
• Tundra Wolves have had their nerve increased by 1, points have also been increased slightly.
• Madman has been replaced by a Cursed Son, this unit no longer effects units with yellow-bellied, but has had it's CS increased to (2).
• Herja now has Iron Resolve like the rest of the Fallen, points have also been increased by 5.
• Birdmen Skylords points adjusted.
• Ninjas now have an option to take Hanzo blades which increase Me to 2+ (from 3+).
• King Vultan [1] added to Birdmen list.

Gros nerf des Ratkin, du coup on se redirige plus vers une armée très populeuse (bas coûts) et faiblarde.

Va vraiment falloir que je teste ^^

http://blog.untilsomebodylosesaneye.net/2015/09/off-into-uncharted-territory.html?m=1

Blog expliquant ce que sont ces nouvelles armées en beta, d'un officiel RC!!

(En anglais)

pappynator a écrit:

Blog expliquant ce que sont ces nouvelles armées en beta, d'un officiel RC!!

(En anglais)

Ça ne nous apprends hélas pas grand chose, surtout sur ces deux dernières armées secrètes (même si ça pourrait coller avec une armée d'oiseaux et de ninjas).

REDACTED is the new Black

Slagash a écrit:

une armée d'oiseaux.

Flaaaaaaaaaaaaaaash...

A voir. Une armée mercenaire ça aurait été sympa. Une armée d'oiseau... euh bah je vois pas tant de proxies que ça. Enfin en birdmen.

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13/09/2015 - 2.0 - Changelog
Special Rules
• Omniscient Removed, points adjusted on units that previously had it émoticône wink
• Rallying now stacks to a maximum of (+2) from (+3)
League of Rhordia
• Battleshrine - Reworked as a Living Legend.
• There is now a horde option for city militia.
Empire of Dust
• Husks have been dropped, they filled a role too similar to mummies.
• Reanimated Behemoth, points reduced by 20, nerve reduced by 1.
• Monolith, reworked.
• Cursed Pharaoh Removed - Empire of Dust now get a new slightly different entry in the Ahmunite Pharaoh.
• Ahmunite Pharaoh on Chariot also reworked.
Brotherhood
• Forsaken Beast, Ensnare option now costs 30 points (was previously 20)
Herd
• Hunting Animals can now only be taken by heroes, these now function similarly to Elven hunting cats.
• Tribal Chariots are now equipped with bows and hit on a 5+, speed increased by 1 to 9, but TC has been lowered by 1 to 2. Points remain unchanged.
• Totem has been reworked.
• Chieftain can now take a bow for 10 points with Ra 4+.
• Shaman now has the option to take a mount, attacks and nerve also reduced by 1. Points also reduced to compensate.
• Tribal Totem bearer can now take a mount.
• Lycan Alpha now has 1 extra nerve and attack but costs 20 points more.
• Chieftain on Chariot speed increased to 9 (from and TC dropped to 2 (from 3), can now take a bow for 15 points with ra 4+
Salamanders
• Ceremonial Guard, No longer have pathfinder, points also reduced to compensate.
• Mage Priest has been reduced in points by 5.
• Clan Lord on Fire Drake, points reduced by 5 for fly option, reduced breath to 16 to match the standard fire drake base cost reduced to 235.
Ratkin
• Nerve has been adjusted to +1 across on most units goblin level). Points on some units have adjusted to compensate for this.
• Pack Mentality now grants Rallying (1) for each no irregular Horde.
• The Blight no longer have CS, they now have TC(1) baseline, points reduced by 1 to compensate.
• Clawshots no longer have big shields and instead have 4+ armour.
• Scurriers have received +1 nerve.
• Vermintide have nimble and vicious back again.
• Death Engine Vile Sorcery option now only costs 40 points (was 50 previously)
• Enforcers now have Rallying!(1),
• Demonspawn[1] now has Rallying!(2)
Varangur
• Night Raiders have 2 less attacks but have gained Pathfinder, points reduced by 5.
• Reavers, No longer have Yellow-Bellied or CS(1). Now have TC(2).
• Horse Raiders now have a regiment option and nimble, point costs have also been adjusted.
• The Fallen are no longer irregular.
• Tundra Wolves reduced points by 5.
• Mounted Sons points reduced.
• Direfang Riders increased points.
• Devourer, Noxious mist upgrade now only costs 15 points (was previously 30). Now has CS(1), TC(1) instead of TC(2).
• Magus Conclave - Reworked!
• Skald - Fixed erroneous stats, now comes equipped with a throwing axe.
Secret Lists
• Wording clarified on Pieces of Eight special rule.
• New Living legend added, Silver Long John [1] - Need immediate feedback on his special rule.
• Dive Hawk-Men dive rule has been clarified in regards to friendly units.
• Removed Shambling from King Vultan - He's no longer undead.

Les listes secrètes ont l'air de se préciser : des hommes-oiseaux, et des pirates... (pièces de huit, Long John Silver...)

Je pense que c'est du hoax, et que les listes finales seront plus originales. Il suffit de lâcher une référence à des ninjas et une autre à des pirates (sérieusement, ninjas vs pirates...) pour que la communauté s'emballe et que les gars du RC se marrent bien derrière leurs écrans .

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(sérieusement, ninjas vs pirates...)

J'y ai pensé aussi ^^ Pile ce qu'il faut pour que tout le monde s'emballe

Par contre c'est risqué, faudrait pas que les VRAIES factions soient décevantes niveau originalité...

Ce qui me ferait super plaisir, (simple goût personnel), ce serait une armée du mal affiliée à un dieu ou une déesse sous-marin(e) : imaginez des naïades corrompues, des hommes requins, des monstres à base de requins géants, des créatures des profondeurs, des prêtres homme-poulpes façon Cthulu, des serpents de mer... Les possibilités sont infinies avec les créatures sous-marines, mythiques ou réelles. Ce serait génial.

Ça poserait le problème du contexte des batailles.
Une armée aquatique, c'est bien, mais comment elle se bat dans les grande plaines/déserts/villes etc ?

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Les possibilités sont infinies avec les créatures sous-marines, mythiques ou réelles. Ce serait génial.

Tu peux déjà faire tout ça avec la liste "Forces of Nature" ! Le thème est excellent, il te reste à être créatif dans le choix de tes figurines.

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Une armée aquatique, c'est bien, mais comment elle se bat dans les grande plaines/déserts/villes etc ?

Réponse simple : c'est magique !
Et puis ça peut aussi être les autres armées qui vont se battre au fond de la mer. Un bon coup de magie et on justifie tout ^^